1. Do a little reasearch into what type of organization CAIR really is and you will undertsand.

http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

Posted at 3:16PM on Aug 26th 2008 by AntiCAIR

2. Glad you posted this. Everyone should know what CAIR really is up to and who the people behind this organization are and the sort of radical ideology they believe in.

Posted at 4:18PM on Aug 26th 2008 by eugene

3. "I think CAIR's objections could be remedied by simply watching the movie. "

To be fair, their whole point is that people don't have to watch the film to be exposed to its title. It's probably a safe assumption in fact that the majority of people that hear of the film won't see it.

Posted at 3:21PM on Aug 26th 2008 by RP

4. "I think CAIR's objections could be remedied by simply watching the movie."

ROTFL... Dude, this is CAIR. It's about bullying.

Posted at 3:34PM on Aug 26th 2008 by Cincinnati Mike

5. I agree that the name should be change. They should call it "Raghead"!

Posted at 4:13PM on Aug 26th 2008 by Jehjeh

6. So is it now OK to make a movie called "Nigger" that pokes fun at racial prejudice?

Posted at 4:16PM on Aug 26th 2008 by Loren

7. Hey! That's MY argument! You give it back!

Posted at 4:18PM on Aug 26th 2008 by Batzarro

8. That's been done already. There was a movie in the 70's called "Boss Nigger" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072725/ http://www.impawards.com/1975/posters/boss_nigger.jpg There is also a book that goes by that name too. http://www.amazon.com/Nigger-Strange-Career-Troublesome-Word/dp/0375421726

Posted at 10:19PM on Aug 26th 2008 by Jehjeh

9. Yes, and for the same reason I think "Towelhead" is OK. The only people who will hear the title "Towelhead" and take it to mean the word is acceptable are people who already think it's acceptable, people who already use it.

MOST people will hear the title and think, "Wow, they're using such an unacceptable word in a movie title? I wonder why." Its use will still be shocking to them. They won't become desensitized to it. (If lots of movies started using the word "towelhead" in their titles, then yeah, the word would start to be less shocking. But one film isn't gonna do it.)

Similarly, if a movie were called "Nigger," some racists who already use the term would say, "Hey, see, it's OK to say it now! Haw haw!" But people who know the word is offensive would be surprised to see it in a movie title and would wonder what's going on.

Posted at 5:39PM on Aug 26th 2008 by Eric D. Snider

10. I don't know. If the movie was called "Nigger" or "Spick" I might expect a similar reaction(at least, I know I would on that last one). On the other hand, if the message of the movie is to tolerance, one such title could draw attention to it's presumpted audience.

It's complicated, I guess, is my point.

Posted at 4:17PM on Aug 26th 2008 by Batzarro

11. Ask Nas how naming his new Album with the N-word worked out for him.

Posted at 4:32PM on Aug 26th 2008 by Sam

12. Why not? Certainly a portion of the African American population have no issue using the word in their music, movies, comedy shows, etc.

Posted at 4:21PM on Aug 26th 2008 by eugene

13. Lovely, how the first stone on the comments is a link to a site run by a man considered the worst person on earth by Matt Olberman. The link to anti-cair is run by Daniel Pipes and David Horowitz, two of the most renowned Islam haters on the planet who are tied into AIPAC and paid for by racist conservative groups. They also run most of the sites that come up when you type 'Islam' in google. Sites I won't mention that are basically filled with lies and hates. These are the quality of people you use to illustrate how CAIR is bad?

If the ADL (Jewish version of CAIR) came out against a movie with Jews called Kikeheads, would you call them bullying? No, you wouldn't. You would rally behind them and retreat into the corner of your office writing comments on the awfuls of the title, banding together and destroy the films negatives, sue the ass off the filmmakers and create chaos. However, because its a Muslim watchdog group, by American subconscious brainwash law, you must associate them with savages and terror and praise whatever they are against. Brilliant.

Forget about CAIR for a second, since you all lock and step go with whatever you heard from Pipes, think about the double standard you're espousing. So, although the movie is about "tolerance" anyone pissed at the term "Towelhead" is a terrorist? So, as a Muslim, if I'm pissed at the title, I'm a terrorist and should be marginalized because "all you" think I'm being reactionary. Sick. Think about what you're saying. Your saying I should embrace the title, under all circumstances, or face your groupthink attacks. Furthermore the angry comments on cinematical on anything Islam related reminds me a rash on my balls thats comes whenever a room full of jerk-offs decide what Muslims "need to do". STFU and put yourself into our shoes for a second before you begin your cliche tirades on fundies. I'll make a movie called -- oh wait, there's no term for what you guys are, jerk offs? No, that doesn't indicate a religious group. White Jerk Offs? No, because some of you are not. So, see what I'm doing. I'm polarizing, and that's the point here. The proverbial "They" that don't like the title have a f*cken right to not like the title, end of story.

Posted at 4:58PM on Aug 26th 2008 by Ghonius

14. Absolutely right man. Since when does a young man, living in new york, who happens to be Jewish, get to tell Muslims what they should and shouldn't be upset about? Basically telling them that they "just don't get it". The thing about this word to consider is that a lot of people won't get that some people find it offensive. Sure, if you made a movie called N#gg#r then the only people saying it would be fine would be those who are probably already racist. But the title of this movie isn't nearly as well known or understood, so you are introducing it to a large audience that now can tie it to a religious and cultural group. Sure, that can also be used to break down barriers and stereotypes, but it can also go the other way. I however, as an atheist, white American, am not going to sit here and tell the people about whom the title refers that they shouldn't be offended because they clearly don't get the intent.

Posted at 4:40PM on Aug 27th 2008 by Kevin

15. I just got home from a press screening of this film, and while I'm emotionally trained, I completely agree with this article. Clearly the group has not seen the movie, heard of the book, or know anything about the movie what-so-ever. Someone needs to remove their head from their a**.
Also, while I recognize that "Towelhead" is a good film, well shot, with a good plot, it was one of, if not The, most cringe-inducing, awkward movies I've ever seen.
For some reason the Dakota Fanning film "Hounddog" (which I haven't seen, but have read/heard a lot about) kept coming to mind.
I can see why the film was so polarizing at Sundance.

Posted at 5:40PM on Aug 26th 2008 by Travis Tidmore

16. CAIR worked to see the film, was in discussion with Warner and has also gone through the book.

The book, the content of the film is not the issue, never was. Nor was the issue about censoring artistic ability of Ball or of the Arian. The studio, the author and CAIR all agree that this is a derogatory term.

Whats at issue, and the difference here is what that term means in the way it is used and perceived by people. When the movie goes through more then one name change and ends up being named a derogatory term, then obviously there seems to be a PR twist to it and not just an artistic application.

The second part is perception. Most Muslims/Arabs and even more so Sikhs(!) who are not even Muslims or Arabs but Punjabi and practice a religion that is no where near Islam and the majority of the men wear turbans as a religious requirement which in Islam is not a religious requirement for men are bullied upon in school, at work, while driving their taxis, at their businesses, in the stores. When a term like that is used to market, promote a movie it not only brings those humiliating experiences back. It puts the person in a situation of victimization all over again. Never knowing who will see that movie, the title its advertisement and use it as a way to dehumanize.

We also are aware of bullying in schools, this is just another way to promote the bullying of people who are not the same, and whats worse is that kids listen to their parents and those around them and extend what they experience into their interaction with their peers without understanding whats right or wrong.

I believe that is the issue, not the movie or the content. All of that is totally in another realm, because I personally saw a screening of the movie and left very disturbed and found nothing "comedic" about it.

Posted at 7:13PM on Aug 27th 2008 by ptstarz

17. I think the lesson here is that if you remove a word, then it will by proxy remove the hate and the racism surrounding it. If you're not lucky enough for that to happen and people continue to be complete bigoted pricks, then at least the word is gone. Racists may be douche bags, but at least they follow rules well. I doubt racists are smart enough to think up new derogatory names anyway. Right? Done and done.

P.S. Eric, my "One Day At A Time" fanclub would like to respectfully ask you stop using the name "Snider" as we're not convinced you represent the legacy as we would prefer. Thanks in advance!

Posted at 6:09PM on Aug 26th 2008 by Mike

18. Some fan club. You don't even know that his name was "Schneider" not "Snider"!!

Posted at 10:22PM on Aug 26th 2008 by Jehjeh

19. Was the person who started this thread writing this just to take a jab at a Muslim American organization that works towards advocacy and communication between Americans and Muslim Americans?

Isn't it in poor taste to bring this film into anti-CAIR agenda.

An organization is allowed to show dislike. I highly doubt that CAIR have the power to change the name. Not sure why there is so much anger towards an organization that is expressing sensitivity over a derrogatory term that is usually screamed out before racist beat-downs.

But I understand Towelhead is a way to draw people's attention to see a film about identity/assimilation, so its certainly an interesting way to do it. I saw the preview and I was cringing as the older man was flirting with this 13/14 year old girl.

I will see it. I have been called a Towelhead (and beaten up as a group of fat girls screamed this into my ear-- this was during the Gulf War I). Actually, expressing such vehement anger towards an organization is a lot like those fat girls bloated with preverted nationalism (and American flag shorts) beating up skinny brown-skinned girls for objecting to the name Towelhead.

Nice discussion -- I'm glad others can see the complication of this derrogatory name.

Posted at 9:01PM on Aug 26th 2008 by Zohra

20. I haven't seen the film. But I wonder if it's not worth considering what an accurate "equally offensive title" might be. Towelhead is certainly derogatory, but it's not the same as the n-word, in my opinion. I'm thinking something comparable might be...Wetbacks? Or (I'm a Jew, so I'm trying to put myself in these shoes) Hebe? So...offensive, but when used in a title, probably intentionally provocative? Gotta give the public a little credit, don't we? Okay, maybe this is just a semantics exercise. But if we're arguing about a title, which is a word...you get the idea.

This reminds me of a discussion about TROPIC THUNDER. There was an article in the LA Times talking about the word "retard." It said (I'm paraphrasing), "What if the characters were talking about going Full Jew (instead of Full Retard). Would that be offensive to you? And I thought to myself, "Hmm. That is pretty offensive."

Until I saw the movie. And then I realized that people were taking all of this stuff out of context. Yes!! Funny! Satire! It has a point! Not really offensive after all.

And my point...is that everything is about context. Yes, I realize that the title exposes people to the word even if they DON'T see the film. But, wow, is that what it's all come down to?

Posted at 9:42PM on Aug 26th 2008 by anne